STL280: Bench top jointers and ditching the table saw

Question 1:

From Mark:
I’m glad to listen to Vic goes to be a everlasting a part of the present! I’m additionally very keen on the indisputable fact that he runs a bandsaw-centered store with no table saw. I additionally don’t have a table saw and don’t plan on getting one. (I’ve a observe saw with the Festool MFT table and a pleasant router table.) Unfortunately, I don’t have a bandsaw but both. You can think about I really want one since I’ve no strategy to rip narrower boards precisely and effectively. I’d additionally resaw typically with this saw. (I’ve been filling this hole with hand instruments however I’d wish to be extra environment friendly as I’ve a 2-year-old son and don’t get a ton of store time.) I don’t anticipate a lot curve reducing although it might come up infrequently.

Since I’ve a small storage store the place area could be very restricted I’ve been planning to purchase a “high-end” 14″ saw. The choices I’m contemplating proper now are the Laguna 14bx and the Rikon 10-353. (I’d like to get one thing like the 16″ South Bend 1080, however I don’t assume I can afford the further 8″ of depth when it’s backed up towards the wall.)

I’ve Three main questions:

1. Which saw ought to I get?

2. I used to be planning on utilizing my shop-vac with a mini cyclone for mud assortment since I don’t have the area for a stand-alone collector. Is this a deal-breaker for the sort of saw?

3. How a lot standing area ought to I’ve on the infeed facet of the saw? Obviously, I want sufficient room to open the doorways and change the blade. Can I get away with simply sufficient room for upkeep and stand in entrance of the machine once I’m utilizing it? I’d wish to again the saw as much as a wall and have a row of cupboards on both facet of it. I’ve by no means seen anybody with an outfeed table on a band saw like a table saw usually has, however it looks as if it could work properly.

Additionally, I’d like to listen to extra about the realities of working in a store with out a table saw. (I feel this might even be a complete episode…) What duties are harder? Cross-cutting small items with out a sled? (Can you utilize a cross-cut sled on a bandsaw?) Do you chop dadoes throughout lengthy boards with a miter gauge on the router table or a handheld router? When do you utilize a slot cutter bit as an alternative of a straight bit? What are different must-have router bits/instruments/methods? What do you consider the total security of a store with out a table saw? Are there operations that you just assume could be safer with the table saw?

I do know it is a lot of questions, so don’t fear when you can’t reply all of them. Thanks for operating the present, it’s entertaining and informative! It’s at the top of my podcast record. It additionally helped push me over the edge to get the FWW limitless membership.

Question 2 (and 3):

From Zachary:
I used to be in a nationwide woodworking retailer not too long ago and seen a big woodworking instrument firm (Jet) was providing a 10” Jointer / Planer combo machine for round $900 (Model 707410). I have already got a planer (Dewalt) however the worth for the combo machine has me tempted. Checking costs, the identical firm’s 8” devoted jointer is available in at greater than twice the value ( $2100 – Model 718218Okay).

I’m inquisitive about your ideas on utilizing this as a devoted Jointer. I really feel prefer it is likely to be an excellent worth, however I’m undecided what I’m lacking. I do need to get a jointer, however am not in any rush. What limitations would the combo machine have {that a} devoted jointer wouldn’t?

Related:

From Jesse:
What do you consider the 8” bench top jointers like the grizzly G0834 or the comparable rikon fashions? In the previous episodes it’s typically mentioned a 6” jointer isn’t price shopping for as a result of you’ll outgrow it shortly, is the identical true of the 8” benchtop fashions. The worth of the bench top fashions makes them very enticing however I ponder if the smaller motors, lighter weight, shorter tables, and so on make it not price it. It’s clearly cheaper than a bigger floor-standing mannequin but when I outgrow it and have to purchase a bigger mannequin in the future it turns into dearer. I’m a hobbyist woodworker and have a couple of eating tables and mattress frames in my future and I perceive the size or dimension of boards is likely to be a bit a lot for the benchtop mannequin however is it one thing I may work with? If it’s not price it, I must wait some time to purchase the ground mannequin however that received’t cease these initiatives I’ll simply construct them with the instruments I’ve at the second. So my query I assume is whether or not they price it and can you’re employed round the limitations very like you’d when you don’t have the instrument in any respect or would you outgrow them and it’s finest to only wait until I can wait to purchase the bigger ground mannequin?

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